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May 07, 2005



MC-130H "Combat Talon II" with DIRCM Mod from Hulbert Field Fla. Approximately $155 million.
Note the ID Number - 0012




These pics were taken in the early morning hours of 12-30-2004. They`re nightime pics that have been lightened up with Photoshop for clarity. I tell you that so you can understand why the pilot didn`t see that huge hole in the middle of the runway approach.


An even better perspective of the holes size and the damage inflicted.


That had to have HURT.
There were several injuries to the crew and passengers, but no deaths.


If you look closely at this photo you will see the ID # is 0012


It`s said that this happened in Iraq. Whether it did or not I don`t know but I`m inclined to doubt it because of the Quanson huts in the background.

The first thing that should have happend when doing this kind of work, was sending out a NOTAM or "Notice To Airmen".
A NOTAM tells pilots that, "HEY! There`s a big honking hole at the approach, try not to land there."

The second thing that should have happened was to mark off the work area, just in case pilots don`t get a NOTAM, and also to let ground personnel know that, "HEY! There`s a big honking hole at the approach, try not to drive there."

Neither of these REQUIREMENTS were in place, so who`s at fault?
Not the pilot. Military runways are rarely lit up at night like a civilian airport. They have tiny directional lighting that`s designed to be seen only from a certain angle, or no lights at all.
I`m guessing he didn`t see the hole till it was too late if at all.

I`m sure the buck got passed around on this but in the end the OPSO (Operations Officer) and/or Airfield Manager are ultimately responsible since nothing is supposed to happen on that airfield without their knowledge and approval.

- Joatmoaf -

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So... when this happens do they drag one of those wrecked planes and leave it in front of the airfield on 96's, like they always do by the main gate? :)

Posted by: Cassandra at May 9, 2005 7:53:36 PM

A static display? Not that particular aircraft.
It`ll be salvaged for re-usable parts, especially the DIRCM (Spook stuff) then most likely cut up with a Demo-Saw and sold as scrap.
It`s not even worthy of the Boneyard at 29 Palms I think.

Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 9, 2005 8:54:04 PM

I was thinking more of the wrecks they tow in on long weekends to warn us all of the perils of unsafe driving... :)

Posted by: Cassandra at May 10, 2005 7:42:23 AM

UPDATE: I talked to an Air Force Lt.Col. from a C-130 squadron last Saturday and he told me that this did, in fact, happen in Iraq.
He also told me that everyone onboard was injured.
Two passengers, a Chaplin and his assistant, were so seriously injured that they were released from service for medical reasons.

Posted by: Joatmoaf at Aug 1, 2005 6:36:30 PM

I can also check around on some other sites. I worked on some MC/EC-130s in my day, so there is an undercurrent of SOS-types around. There is also a Herc website for those of you that love Hercs:


Posted by: LinkedInUSAF at Sep 17, 2005 2:40:39 PM

This in fact did happen. My son in law was on the plane in the photo. He had photos of this. Also I saw the video when it was blown up. He was not injured.

Posted by: charles m. at Dec 20, 2007 6:35:16 AM

This repair work was not being accomplished at the approach it was halway down the runway. The event happened at night which makes seeing these un marked obstructions much more difficult under certain lighting configurations.

Posted by: Boris at Jan 5, 2010 10:13:59 PM