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May 09, 2005
Forsake The Troops
"This website is proudly dedicated to the notion that our nation's military is grossly overcompensated, at the expense of the American taxpayers. Even as the evil, overspending Pentagon seeks to raise benefits for these scumbags, Forsake The Troops believes that these pukes get pay and benefits tax free when in a combat zone."
Verbatim prolog. I kid you not.
Here`s more:
"Our problem is this: the military is a lifestyle these morons chose. What idiot risks their life for a country? It's what they chose. Forsake our Troops! They must think that if they go to war, they don't need to pay taxes just like the rest of us. Let 'em die in combat-- we don't need their ilk! "
As if that wasn`t enough I read this:
"Forsake The Troops politely suggests a boycott of heavy metal group Metallica, due their obvious pro-military stance."
See for yourself. Forsake The Troops
Call them today and let them know how you feel, (315) 295-2602
I can`t express how I feel about this in words, not on this blog anyway. Let`s just say that, for Michael Crooks sake, I hope I never meet him in person, and let it go at that.
As a little note of irony, while I was building the air compressor shed at the nose hanger today, the song that kept running through my head was Metallica`s "Don`t Tread On Me".
H/T Mike The Marine
- Joatmoaf -
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At times like these I take comfort in the knowledge that the Tree of Liberty as strong branches from which to hang bastards like this..
Rope.. Tree.. Traitor..*
*Some assembly required.
Posted by: LarryConley at May 10, 2005 8:21:56 AM
I am sickened. This whining freak would be the first to ask for help if he was threatened. Hey - if you don't want to support the war that is one thing - not supporting our troops is cowardly. He is a cowardly scumbag. Unlike you Joat - I hope I do meet him someday. Larry-Conleys advice will be a handy resource.
Posted by: Dr. Harden Stuhl at May 10, 2005 8:53:32 PM
At first I thought it was some sort of joke site, but when I read that last line "Let em die in combat..." I decided that I didn`t care if it was a joke or not, these people are pussies and if I ever meet any them I would literally stomp a mud hole in their ass.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 10, 2005 10:08:08 PM
Nuts.
Now I've got to start listening to Metallica.
If you can stand to read further on this site without throwing up, you will see a disclaimer that announces it is NOT a joke site.
Don't stomp the disgusting subhuman little worm, though. You'd just have to throw your shoes away--you'd never be able to clean off the stench.
Posted by: MrsPurpleRaider at May 11, 2005 6:35:28 PM
Mike Crook Vogel-Delaney
http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/69719858/m/88700261713/p/2
http://web.archive.org/web/20020809082428/www.silentmike.net/writing/commentary.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20020809082035/www.silentmike.net/writing/army.html
http://www.bemyfriend.biz/profile.php?profile=5917&SID=4cafa72c36bf8c30502b09f5acfd0a9f
Posted by: Rangermom at May 12, 2005 10:19:13 AM
Lucky me, my browser refuses to display that page!
Oh GAWD, do I have to like Lars? I'm OK with James, but not Lars!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at May 12, 2005 10:58:45 AM
Can we get a visual on the little worm?
Is this Mike Crook? http://www.armageddonproject.com/images/storypix/mike001.jpg
Girlie Man!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at May 12, 2005 11:02:57 AM
I am currently in the US Marine Corps, stationed in Okinawa, Japan, and I got wind of this traitor's website from a friend, who was furious about it. By the time I got to it, it appeared the site had come down. But, from reading parts of interviews, and quotes from his site, I am joined with the rest of the REAL American people, in the idea that this "man" should have his freedom of speech revoked for abusing it. The nerve. I personally spent time in Kuwait during OEF and OIF, and luckily, I never had to go into Iraq, being that I am a communicator, and I was not required there. I say luckily, because I do know Marines who were in Fallujah, and I would not wish that on anyone. This Mike Crook knows nothing of the Military, or it's sacrifices. He would not last a day in my unit, and mine is nowhere near as hard as the infantry units that patrol the streets in Iraq on a daily basis. I have been in the Marine Corps for five years, and I only make around $1,600/month after taxes. So yes, I have benefits, and food and lodging are provided for me. But, I also dont have the option of quitting my job if i decide one day I don't like it anymore. I can't tell my boss where to stick it without going to jail, or at least losing a few ranks and a month's pay. And I have also spent the last year in a foreign country, away from everyone that I love. What this fool doesn't understand, is that we sacrifice our own freedoms in order to protect his. And he abuses us by insulting us? And "what idiot risks their life for a country?" If it weren't for those "idiots," he wouldn't have a country to live in. Thomas Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty must occasionally be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants!" Which category would this Crook fall under? I say Jefferson forgot one. The cowards. As "Mike the Marine" stated in his comment, for Crook's sake, it would be best if I never met him in person.
Posted by: Corporal Sean T McCoy at May 12, 2005 9:46:41 PM
Amen
Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 12, 2005 9:57:07 PM
""I am joined with the rest of the REAL American people, in the idea that this "man" should have his freedom of speech revoked for abusing it. ""
No.. one of the founding principles of this country is the right to say stupid things... on the other hand.. back then .. you could challenge someone to a duel for slandering you. The 'archtypical' Texan answer to this problem I think is best"
"Your honor.. after what he said he just needed an ass-wupping"
"Case dismissed"
Posted by: LarryConley at May 16, 2005 9:11:45 PM
Nice blog Joatmoaf. I, too, have a blog; a very progressive one.
http://educationalvignette.blogspot.com/
Posted by: howie at May 16, 2005 10:10:07 PM
Yes Howie, I knew that. It truely is a progressive blog and I hope that with you and Dean working together, you will be able to help shape the political landscape of the future.
Congradulations and good luck with your blog.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 17, 2005 12:47:59 PM
On Monday evening, the webmaster of Forsake The Troops was brutally assaulted by two men, thought to be members of the military, in response to their opinions about this website. Mr. Crook had been the target of numerous death threats and trespassers at his residence. All of these threats were saved and have been turned over to the authorities. UPDATE:
At 6:19pm Eastern time, Michael Crook died of his injuries, after being rushed by ambulance to the leading hospital in the area for head trauma. The two men who allegedly assaulted him are currently in the custody of police. Mr. Crook died with his wife and infant daughter present.
It is therefore the decision of his family, and associates that Forsake The Troops goes offline, to prevent further incidents of violence and threats against his family. Therefore, this domain will permanantly go offline at around 5pm Eastern time, on Tuesday, May 17th, 2005.
http://www.forsakethetroops.info /
But wait, the little farktard faked his death, and blamed the military!
http://www.michaelcrook.com/mikesweblog/
Mike is revived!
Submitted by mike on Tue, 2005-05-17 20:32.
Well, I suppose the cat's out of the bag, so....I'm not dead.
To those that sent heartfelt messages, and felt that this was a true story, I truly apologize. This situation quickly got out of hand, when national media outlets called looking for clarification.
I honestly thought people would shrug it off, and go on their merry way. I even got a kick out of the numerous hate messages from people, including an e-mail message from this numbnuts...
What a f*cking piece of human manure!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at May 18, 2005 10:28:10 PM
I think the site goes WAY too far in making a few points that probably need to be made. Most importantly, the troops are not necessarily heroes or villains. They're just people doing a job. People get sick of having the flag shoved down their throat as catch-all excuse for anything the gov't chooses to do, and sites like these pop up.
I don't particularly appreciate the "sacrifice" of the troops either. They made a career choice that had some ups and some downs, just like I did. I have a brother in the Army, and he laughed when I suggested that he was fighting for my freedoms in Iraq. Which is good, because I admire honest people.
I can't stand veterans and military types who think they deserve a parade and a host of benefits at my expense, just because they made a career choice. I have lots of respect for military types who quietly serve with honor while realizing that a lot of the military is pretty big [DELETED] joke, just like any bureaucratic gov't service, and that killing people - even the enemy - is unfortunate (if neccessary). There is honor to be found in the military, of course. It is also often the equivalent one big gov't welfare program for both individuals and corporations.
The bottom line is that the military has the potential to attract both the best AND the worst America has to offer. Hawks and doves alike should recognize this and not write anybody a blank moral check simply because they chose to be an accountant, doctor, clerk, or soldier. As always, honesty and an ability to look at individuals without stereotypes or political filters behooves any rational person.
Posted by: Jeremy at May 20, 2005 3:19:53 PM
Wheter you appreciate their sacrafice or not isn`t up to you since it`s their sacrafice to make.
I appreciate it and so do many others and as individuals we Americans can`t pick and choose who we go to war with and for what reasons.
I didn`t like the way Clinton handled anything militarily when he was President but that doesn`t mean I thought any less of the men and women in uniform when they were forced to fix a problem in Yugoslavia that the Europeans refused to get involved in personally.
Our military isn`t our last line of defense, it`s our ONLY line of defense.
Mis-use of the military I blame on the Presidents, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton come to mind, but the military itself is pretty much apolitical.
P.S. No cussing.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 20, 2005 5:45:20 PM
I just saw this person (and I use the term very loosely) on TV on Fox Cable News and heard what he had to say. At first I just wanted to rip out his lungs, then I realized I would just be doing what he wants - respond and react to his ignorant, ill-thought, non-sensicle, rediculous and stupid comments. This man is a coward. He would no more serve his family or friends, let alone his country (this country). He would indeed be the first one to call for military assistance if he felt the need. I wonder what his first, true thought was after Sept. 11, 2001 - I doubt even he knows. He is even completely unaware that the military preserves his right to be an complete moron and say the thoughtless, mean and cruel things he says about the military. He reminds me of Ward Churchill, the moronic professor who made the thoughtless and cruel comments about the civilians who were killed on Sept 11. I will just finish by saying that I am proud of every man and woman who serves in any capacity in the Armed Forces - one individiual cannot and should not make anyone with any common sense feel any other way.
Posted by: Cecelia Gramsky at May 20, 2005 10:41:33 PM
Ignore Mr. Crooke he is just an idiot in search of his 15 mins. of fame. Now the Jackass can go on and be forgotten.
Anita
Posted by: Anita Glover at May 21, 2005 3:09:09 AM
I think that whoever made this site is ignorant. How dare any of you sit there and read this, forgetting all the sacrifices that these men and women make for all of us. Even YOU, a person who criticizes everthing they do. They work for almost nothing, risking their lives every day for the sake of our freedom. They leave their families, fight in a far away place and you sit there, and call them scumbags. You tell them that the terrible pay they get is too much for all the unbelievably hard jobs they do. They, and the men and women who fought before them, are the reason that a person like you can make a site like this. I can't believe you would rather criticize them than thank them. I think that you need to stop and look at all the things that you can do in this country, that other people can't do, and this is because of them. You are a terrible and selfish person.
Posted by: Stephanie at May 21, 2005 10:27:58 AM
Hey check out the jack asses sight on military pay and bennifits makes it sound great as an army recruiter i have to say although i am sorry he was molested as a child i may show this part to some prospects thanks crook you stupid window licker
Posted by: SSG Mac at May 21, 2005 1:41:36 PM
Stephanie,
If most of that is directed at me then maybe you should read the post again. If it`s directed at Crook then call him up and let him know how you feel. That`s why I posted the number up there.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at May 21, 2005 2:30:11 PM
I agree that coming into the military was my choice, but, by no means do I hold myself above any other person, or expect special treatment. It's just that I know firsthand the sacrifices that that choice brings with it, and I don't appreciate being put down and belittled for it. Nor would any mother and father who got a knock on their door from a priest and a man in uniform, because their child died fighting for their country. Would any parent wish to feel that their child's death was for nothing? Yes, the military can attract the best and the worst in society, but good or bad, they all do the job. They all make a sacrifice. And alot of the "bad" people that come into the military are actually doing it to get away from the bad parts of their lives, and start a better life with a clean slate. I will be going home on May 31st, and ending my term in the Marine Corps. I doubt my mother would like to hear someone call me a scumbag, or say that my life for the past five years has been wasted. It is true, it is his right to say his peace, and that cannot be taken away from him. But I rank him right up there with the insensitive fools who spit in the faces of American service members returning from Vietnam. Most of them didn't want to be there, but they did their duty, and served their country honorably. To be spit upon by the very people that they had sworn to protect. It's insulting. "And that's all I have to say about that."
Posted by: Corporal Sean T McCoy at May 23, 2005 10:22:48 AM
I posted the exact same crap a year ago and I didn't get to meet Alan Colmes. If you ask me, this guy is some sort of right-wing stooge trying to make liberals look like drooling imbeciles.
Posted by: Liberal Larry at May 23, 2005 4:36:17 PM
Hey Larry, I am a Democrat...
Posted by: Drooling Imbecile at May 23, 2005 5:24:29 PM
Let us refresh the Tree of Liberty with Mike Cook's blood.
I wonder if he would say that about the welfare moms and deadbeat dads, or would he protect their right to sit on their butts?
I have a welfare family living next door to me. The girls each have a television in their bedrooms. They and their mother get their hair done every couple of weeks, and mom gets her nails done. To the tune of about 350 dollars. They have cell phones, decent cars. They routinely get their electric, gas and water cut off for non payment. Same with their phone.
The grandmother has a skanky little dog that she refuses to put on a leash, so some of the organic matter he has deposited on our lawn has gone right back to her front door.
The mother gets free pre school head start for her pre school age child. She gets food stamps. She smokes. Her mother is an alcoholic and the kicker is they are RENTING that house. They have asked my sons to mow their grass but tell them they can't pay them anything, not even gas money.
One by one, the cars have been repossessed and they are hollering foul over it. Like car ownership is a right?
They are mad because they have to go with state funded (taxpayer) services.
TELL ME ABOUT IT, MR. CROOK! Tell me how we should forsake the military and let the dregs of society and whiners like you have a place in the sun that you have neither earned or 'deserved' as a right.
Freakin' sphincter muscle.
Posted by: Cricket at May 24, 2005 3:46:26 PM
speaking of sphincter muscle...I've got a new nickname for Crook....Tenesmus. He is the medical condition that makes true Americans sick.
te•nes•mus
n.
A painful spasm of the anal sphincter accompanied by an urgent desire to evacuate the bowel or bladder and involuntary straining that results in the passing of little or no matter.
He doesnt deserve to be an American. God bless our troops. Semper Fi
Posted by: Semper Fi at May 24, 2005 6:34:07 PM