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September 13, 2004

Kerrylied Rally Photos

Capitol_small I'm going to post as I go, so this will be a work in progress for the next hour or so as I continue to upload photos. You can click on the thumbnails to enlarge the images.

We got to the rally at 2 pm. The day was overcast, warm, and humid but the rally area was shaded by enormous trees to either side of the stage. There were flags and signs everywhere. As we walked up, it sounded like the soundtrack from Apocalypse Now - the couple behind me remarked they hadn't heard the song playing for years.

The crowd was dressed in everything from Dockers shorts, polos, and sandals to black leather motorcyle gear and bandanas to business suits and ties. I spotted a few Marines in the crowd and the Naval Academy class of '64 had several in attendance. There were also vets from Ie Drang, featured in the movie "We Were Soldiers Once". Among the speakers (I couldn't get all their names) were emcee James "Moby" Carney, Captain Larry Bailey, Dexter Lehtinan, former POW Jim Warner, John O'Neill, B.G. Burkett (who wrote Stolen Valor), CIA vet Rodrigo Diaz, Army Captain Donna Rowe, Steve Pitkin (who was pressured into testifying at Winter Soldier by John Kerry), and Laura Armstrong (daughter of 'Black Bart' Bartholomew who was killed on Thanksgiving in 1968).

Again, click on the thumbnails to see larger versions of each photo.

I_earned_the_right The rally started just as we arrived. Someone (it's all blurring now) divided the crowd into two halves, one side shouting "Kerry Lied", while the other side responded "While Good Men Died". Of course the Moonbat Brigade was out in full force, yelling "Bush Lied" and trying to drown out the speakers on the stage. Fortunately the Park Police arrived and cleared them away or forced them to sit down and listen quietly. Midway through the rally we walked to the other side of the crowd, where a young man was sulking in the shade of a tree, flanked by two Park Policemen. Every time he tried to stand, they'd sit him right back down. There were plenty of homemade signs: this one said, "I'm a Vietnam Vet: I have earned the right to protest against John Kerry".

Release_records This great sign (complete with three band-aids) said "Kerry, release your medical records now". Others I couldn't get pictures of said, "It's the Karma, stupid", and "Cover the Swift Vets Story".

Kerry_lied_pows_died2 The banner above this POW/MIA flag says "Kerry lied. POWs died." The crowd was amazingly well-behaved given the level of emotion provoked by the speakers. Several times when mention was made of Kerry's meeting with the North Vietnamese in Paris, cries of "traitor" filled the air.

Kerry_lied_pows_died I especially liked the gentleman's T-shirt in the foreground of this picture. It says, "Democracy is not a spectator sport".



Dexter_lehtinan First up was Dexter Lehtinan, an Army paratrooper and Ranger who was seriously wounded in 1971. His recovery took 18 months and many operations - most of his cheekbone was destroyed. Now an adjunct law professor, Mr. Lehtinan retired as a 1st Lieutenant, then graduated first in his class at Stanford Law School. He has served in the Florida House and Senate, was a US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, and has argued before the USSC. The Unit and I had seen him just that morning on Washington Journal, where he argued persuasively against another Vietnam Vet who supports Kerry. Despite his scars, he is still a handsome and imposing man.

Lehtinan spoke of his experiences: "I was discharged from a military hospital 18 months and several operations later, almost as good as new from the wounds my enemy had inflicted on me. Those wounds were just flesh and blood. But the wounds inflicted by John Kerry -- the bearing false witness against me and a generation of honorable veterans -- those wounds were much more serious; they went much deeper. Those wounds went to the heart and soul. Those wounds never go away."

"Now we're in another war. Now my son is in the Marine Corps, a weapons officer flying F-18D Hornet jet fighters. That's the Marine Corps Kerry mocked with a book cover showing protesters simulating the flag raising at Iwo Jima, with the American flag upside down. That's the F-18 fighter that Kerry voted against in the Senate. And today John Kerry's picture hangs in an honored place in the enemy's war museum in Saigon, as an honored hero to the Vietnamese communists."

"At least he's a hero somewhere.", he commented wryly.

Chaplain A combat chaplain (I don't have his name) decorated for valor spoke movingly of departed comrades and how his life had been saved by a young soldier who left the shelter of his bunker and threw himself in front of the chaplain as they took fire from above. Shaken with emotion, he said, (I'm paraphrasing) "I came here because I'm able to - because he gave his life to save mine."

Crowd The crowd stood, transfixed, as he spoke, then joined him in a moment of silence to remember fallen comrades. It was a moment I will never forget as long as I live.

B.G. Burkett, author of Stolen Valor, invoked the recent 60 Minutes forgery scandal, relaying how Dan Rather claims to have been a Marine, but actually failed to complete Recruit Training. Burkett discovered this while checking up on Rather's claims after Rather ran a CBS TV documentary, "The Wall Within”, in which he portrayed vets as guilt-ridden, dysfunctional, and mentally disturbed.

Former POW Jim Warner spoke of his time as a prisoner of war and how, one day, his captors confronted him with the testimony of one Lt. j.g. John Kerry that he and his fellow vets were murderers, rapists, and torturers. What impressed me most about this story was the Mr. Warner minimized his ordeal, stating repeatedly that, although the bulk of the torture had stopped by that time, he and other POWs still feared that the Communists would kill them once they were no longer of value. Having read many accounts from former POWs, saying "the torture had stopped" did not turn the Hanoi Hilton into the Waldorf Astoria: POWs still lived in filthy cramped cells and were being starved and ill-treated. But he never dwelt on this aspect of his captivity. I can't imagine the strength it took not to give in to despair after years in that hellhole (he had been there 4 years without being allowed to write home). And then, to read that one of your own was devaluing your service, to have your captors tell you, "See, even your officers (who are charged with the welfare, not only of men under their command, but of the service as well) think you should be punished...". And yet some people think they should "get over it". It struck me that every single speaker seemed not so much angry or bitter, as resolute in their commitment to get the word out about what really happened back then.

Thirty years later, they are still being ignored by the media and told to shut up by various pundits who didn't have to live through what they endured. Amazing.

Oneill Swift Vets founder John O'Neill took the stage to loud applause and cheers. O'Neill is always a great speaker: calm, clear, concise, and determined. He appeared moved by the applause, saying "It's good to be among friends". The other great line in his speech came after he had outlined the many reasons Kerry isn't fit to be Commander-in-Chief: "Leave John Kerry in command of the largest vessel he has ever competently handled: a surfboard."

Rodrigo Diaz, a CIA veteran who served in Vietnam, spoke movingly in his quiet, musical Cuban accent of the CIA officers who died there and whose names will not be remembered. He also recalled testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings and related how John Kerry distorted his testimony and refused to allow TV cameras into the closed hearings. Kerry, he said, tried to discredit him by accusing him of receiving bribes. He fought to make his testimony public to set the record straight.

Donna Rowe, an Army Captain and nurse from Massachusetts spoke of the core values she grew up with: courage, commitment, and compassion and added that the military had instilled three more values in her and Vietnam vets: Honor. Duty. Country. She told the tale of Kathleen, an infant rescued from a decimated Montagnard village.

Laura Armstrong spoke of growing up without a father and the pain Kerry's words caused her family. She also told an amazing tale: before he died, her father had saved the life of Rick Rescorla, flying into a dry creekbed or ditch and pulling Rescorla out from under the enemy before they could kill him. Featured in "We Were Soldiers Once", Rick was later to perish in the World Trade Center after his calm leadership saved the lives of thousands of civilians. Once again, one act of uncommon valor out of hundreds committed over 30 years ago was still saving lives today.

Laura emailed me at the end of August and asked me to help get the word out about the rally. I was surprised but honored at the request. Although I didn't have as much luck as I'd hoped with several big-name bloggers I contacted, fellow milbloggers Blackfive and Greyhawk came through. John Hawkins also publicized the event last week. A few other bloggers were kind enough to publicize the rally even without being asked: Feste: A Foolsblog, Stix, Jason Hayes at Musing, and The Everlasting Phelps. A huge thank you to those who gave these vets a forum - if I missed anyone please let me know.

I thought the most moving moment was when Vietnam vet Steve Pitkin took the stage. A soft-spoken man who often appeared overcome by emotion, Mr. Pitkin related how he had come home from Vietnam confused and angry. He fell in with VVAW and told of traveling to the Winter Soldier hearings with John Kerry and Scott Camil. Once there, he was pressured into testifying, although he'd previously told Kerry he never saw atrocities and had nothing to say. His voice breaking at times, Mr. Pitkin apologized to the crowd and said he had no excuses for what he had done. I couldn't help but admire the tremendous courage it must have taken to appear before that crowd and admit that you were one of the men who had accused them 33 years ago. He closed by saying, "Now I've come clean and apologized for what I did." His voice suddenly thundered, "Now it's YOUR turn, Mr. Kerry!". I half expected the crowd to react angrily. But they listened quietly. At the end of Mr. Pitkin's brief speech, the emcee asked the crowd to vote to forgive him. The cheers and clapping were incredible - it was an emotional moment.

Capitol_1 As the rally wound down, we strolled to the center of the lawn to see the crowd against the backdrop of the Capitol, where John Kerry threw away his medals (or ribbons...or someone else's medals) in disdain over thirty years ago.

I have been angry with John Kerry since I started blogging back in February. But hearing the words of these brave Americans who suffered so much in the service of their country (and still suffer to this day, although they minimize both their heroism and their pain), I felt even more strongly that this man should not be allowed to become President. If possible, the rally deepened my disgust with John Kerry as a politician and a man. Although there were no media (that I saw) visible, I wished every voter in America could hear their words. And I thought of the words of Shakespeare's Henry V:

I was not angry since I came to France
Until this instant. Take a trumpet, herald;
Ride thou unto the horsemen on yon hill:
If they will fight with us, bid them come down,
Or void the field; they do offend our sight:
If they'll do neither, we will come to them,
And make them skirr away, as swift as stones

Dislogue has more pictures and Powerline has more on Black Bart.

UPDATE: Notice the AP story spends fully half the text talking about what Kerry supporters (fewer than 100 at a rally with from 1500-2000 people in attendence) had to say. So much for objectivity. h/t Dislogue.

UPDATE II: The Washington Times comes through! Also featured in the next post. Thanks to JHD for the tip.

Opstreetcorner UPDATE III: Sorry you missed the rally? Wondering what's next? Read about Operation Street Corner, a grassroots effort to spread the word. The VVFT will provide the materials.

- Cassandra

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Comments

CIA vet Rodrigo Diaz?

Is that the guy from the Jack Ryan Clancy novels?

Posted by: Pile On® at Sep 13, 2004 8:17:02 AM

Cass, a moving story. May I link it to a DECENT forum that I am on? I would also like to post some pics too, but will not do so without your permission. The forum moderator is a good friend who is as disgusted with Kerry as I am.

The moonbat forum is laughing because of the supposed GOP hysterics about Kerry's sensitive war on terror. I am pointing out the irony of the democrats being whipped into a frenzy of ignorance.

"These are not the terrorists you're looking for. Go about your business. Move along."

Posted by: L aFemme Crickita at Sep 13, 2004 8:54:18 AM

Link away, Cricket.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 8:56:30 AM

Has there been any media coverage of this?

If there has been I have missed it.

Posted by: Pile On® at Sep 13, 2004 9:01:44 AM

Haven't had time to check, other than the AP story. I certainly didn't see any media there, although they would have been up by the stage (one hopes).

The AP were apparently more interested in interviewing the Kerry supporters so they could provide that all-important pro-Kerry spin.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 9:12:23 AM

C-SPAN was there. I saw it on TV Saturday.

Dan Rather has a notarized affadavit saying he was there, but I think it was forged.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at Sep 13, 2004 9:55:47 AM

I couldn't see the stage from where I was standing. There was a guy taping the speeches, but I didn't know if that was for the Vietnam Vets for Truth (they're making a video of the rally).

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 9:58:29 AM

Great post. I live-blogged from C-Span yesterday (also did pre-event post last week and follow-up today), then watched the whole thing again in reruns during the wee hours:

Honor bound

Restoking the Vietnam homefires


"The honor of a generation has been stomped upon"

Let the nation see their pain

Posted by: Sissy Wililis at Sep 13, 2004 10:11:02 AM

I re read this story and am linking it to a forum. I finally figgered out how to do it.

Cass, I want to thank you again for so many things. This blog is what is needed on the web. Your painstaking attention to detail and
insightful commentary has been so helpful to me in so many ways.

I won't talk about the posters cause then I will start bawling.

Posted by: La Femme Crickita at Sep 13, 2004 10:55:43 AM

What a gamut of emotions this weekend huh?

We watched the rally on CSpan also. Talk about powerful stuff! CSpan2 then had a special on their book review show with O'Neill.

Saturday was special in a variety of ways. Back 0n 10/9/01 my daughter and I stood in front of the Pentagon. We were in DC for a large girls' soccer tournament and one that was not cancelled in spite of the attacks. It was the right move! The girls played and we gave the finger to terrorists all over the world!

I had been harshly critized at the time for taking a then 13 yr old daughter to see the destruction heaped on the Pentagon. Some people just can't handle reality and we even had girls not show for fear of terrorism but not us. And not my daughter! She stood there beside her Dad with tears in her eyes and not the least inkling of any fear what-so-ever. She stood beside her Dad that was so filled with anger that he was shaking. She asked her Dad questions that any 13 yr old would ask and understood her Dad's anger. She "got it" and I have absolutely no regrets for taking her there!

Now she supports her favorite brother while he fights for the Freedom of his Country and she has no fear. This now 16 yr old has a total understanding of what it is her brother and his brothers-in-arms are doing. She does not suffer fools lightly and has a reputation at school among her mates and teachers as someone that puts up with no nonsense from the Left. And it does not matter whether they be teachers or students! She will argue her points succinctly and with passion while always providing ample proofs of her views. She, in her own way, takes no prisoners.

I am proud of my 16 yr old daughter and pleased as punch she has her own mind and independence! If things continue down the path they are currently headed she will make a fine Marine wife someday! ;-)

The weekend brought all kinds of varying emotions with the biggest being contact with our son and her "joined at the hip" big bro'! We knew of the fight his Co was in on the 4th and that they were hit by two VBIEDs (vehicle born improvised explosive devices) but we had no other information. It was a long week and we finally had the contact we were looking for. He called and e-mailed his little sis letting her know that other than a few glass cuts and lingering effects from the concussion of the explosions he was OK. She still stands tall that little 16 yr old girl does! Still proud of her brother and all of her brothers.

She remembers 9/11 and a certain trip to the Pentagon!

This "9/11 Generation" will not forget and they surely will not be duped by outrageous political claims! These kids know an asshat when they see and hear one and it is good! Bless these kids and their honesty!

Yeah, this weekend was rather an emotional one! Semper Fi and God Bless America!

Posted by: JarheadDad at Sep 13, 2004 11:38:37 AM

JHD:

I don't know if you heard it on C-SPAN, but every single time a speaker mentioned the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the crowd erupted in cheers.

We have a picture of the Pentagon right after the plane hit - they gave it to The Unit when he left the Pentagon the summer after 9/11. We moved into our quarters in California on Sept. 11th, 2002. The truck driver had been escorted to our house by a fleet of MP's - as he climbed out of the cab, he quipped, "I feel violated...".

Two years later as we drove out of the gate for the last time, they had just reopened the main gate near our house to traffic. No more sandbags, machine guns, and humvees with machine guns mounted on the top. For the first time in 2 years, you could get on base with just your DOD sticker - we didn't have to get an ID from everyone in the car and present it to the guard to get to our home. It sure felt different - there were even planters with flowers at the gate.

We've come a long way, thanks mostly to our guys over there.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 11:52:06 AM

Years ago, when my parents were in West Germany, my mom took my sister through Dachau. My dad has a snap of them in the gate and the hanging tree next to it. Above them the sign: 'Never Forget'.

Years later I took my oldest to a Holocaust Remembrance lecture at Fort Lost in the Woods.
Present was a teeny tiny little old Jewish lady who was a nurse that helped treat the newly liberated prisoners at Dachau. He got her autograph.

While it was pre-9-11, he was moved to the core over her story and the courage of the people who stood against Hitler. His heroes have always been ones from Scripture, but he got to see some real ones that day, and on 9-11, he got to see the attacks, as well as the heroism of the firefighters and rescue workers at ground zero.

He told me while dh was in Kuwait that he felt he was doing his part in the war on terror here at home.

I was never more proud of him in that moment because it was crystallized for him as well.
Our kids do understand. You did the right thing. She may or may not carry arms in the formal sense, but she knows what was done to her country and why. You planted a seed of freedom in her...one that says that what she has is worth fighting for. Bravo.

Posted by: La Femme Crickita at Sep 13, 2004 1:34:46 PM

I think I owe you a "thanks" for the daddy/daughter day I had yesterday. I'm pretty sure I found this site through Blackfive, but it might have been Mudville Gazette. Anyhoo, I used this rally as an opportunity for some quality time with my dad.

Yesterday was the first time he and I ever talked about his service over there, and how he felt when we came back to the states.

Like many others have expressed in reports I've read today, he told me that he wished all the Vietnam Vets could have been there, because it was a good thing.

Thanks.

Posted by: Lornkanaga at Sep 13, 2004 1:35:44 PM

I'm so glad you got to talk to him.

It was a good thing. It could so easily have been an ugly and hate-filled event, but it wasn't that way at all.

The crowd was calm and well-behaved - they picked up their trash at the end (at least they did while I was still there). As I said, there were a few cries of "traitor", but no swearing or harsh language. Even the Boos were polite - it was just incredible. Even when the incredibly rude and disrepectful Kerry supporters tried to shout down several speakers, the crowd was never unruly or ugly. The speakers just turned it into a joke.

At one point I think it was Capt. Bailey was telling the crowd the rally wasn't about politics, or medals, or any of that, Kerry protesters shouted "Lies!" Without missing a beat, he said, "that's right - that's exactly what this rally is about: lies - Kerry's lies."

I may not have the words just right - I couldn't take notes and take photos and listen at the same time so I'm relying on my memory.

I cried like a baby during several of the speeches - I can't describe it, but tears were running down my face and I didn't care.

Another neat thing was how many of the vets had Asian or Vietnamese brides - what a lovely way of healing the divisions of war. There were veterans of the South Vietnamese army in attendance. The Unit's dad was given a neat bronze statue by a RearAdmiral from South Vietnam - we have it now (he passed away 15 years ago).

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 1:55:31 PM

We arrived late, fortunately after the protesters left, so we missed the first couple of speeches. I was quite impressed with the crowd as well--it was truly an afternoon of much-needed healing, not hate.

I thought the chaplain's speech was the best, with Donna Rowe's talk a close second. All the other speeches were excellent as well.

From the pics you took, it looks like you were no more than about 30 feet away from us, if that.

Posted by: Lornkanaga at Sep 13, 2004 2:26:33 PM

I have more - maybe you're in one of them. Just haven't had time / wasn't sure whether to post the rest.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 2:33:41 PM

The more I read the more I find my utter disdain for Kerry (and his arse kissing media ho's) finding depths beyond that which I've ever had for Clinton. And that runs pretty daggone deep. Putting this...ahem...." (7 lettered/2 syllabled)illegitimate male child" in office would be hardly different than electing Charles Manson, Kevorkian, Nero.. Forget being an impotent and incompetent "public servant" politician. He's a DESPICABLE human. (and I question the "human"!!)

Perhaps we could call the AP Kerrys AsskPats.

As for the blind asshatted Kerry fools bloviating their blather while plugging their ears--I hope the wind tunnel pressure in their heads caused their fingers to get permanently stuck in their ears....Oh, and their feet in their mouths!

Props to C-SPAN for giving them SOME time!! [we all know if it was a "Vets for Kerry" rally--despite there being 3 or 4 vets there, they would have hired the NYC protestors to show up and all the media whores would have pre-empted programming to give it coverage.

BTW Cass, this is TWO stories you've posted today where you forgot to include a link to a box of kleenex.

Posted by: CK Cat at Sep 13, 2004 2:49:21 PM

There is no K in AssPats...well...not s'pose to be.
GREAT STUFF, Cass. Thanks for being our eyes and ears on the (sacred) ground there. [I'm still tearing up!]
I'm really pleased the genuinely brave, heroic and servant minded Vietnam Vets are getting at least some of their(over due) due!

Some good friends of mine who live up the Interstate from me were at a "We Were Soldiers" reunion in April at Ft. Benning. Oscar's brother was in the "WWS" batallion. They showed me some pics of the reunion. I was quite touched as they told me how the man in the wheelchair was IN that wheelchair because he took a bullet for Oscars brother, saving his life!

I tried to help my friends (last minute request) network to Mel Gibson since he'd just been at my church. No contact was made to invite him, BUT Sam Elliott DID show up for the reunion. (~;

Just KEEP letting the Hanoi John images of drug abusing, baby killing sadists fade to black and let these men of character/honorable Heroes be elevated to their proper place of honor--- in the spotlight!!!! God bless them., bless them, bless them.

Posted by: CK Cat at Sep 13, 2004 3:15:59 PM

Sam Elliott? I've always had rather a soft spot in my heart for him. But then you and I have the same taste in men :) Nice to hear he isn't a jerk in person like so many in Hollywood.

And I'm with you on the God Bless Them. I was so humbled, being at that rally.

I can't tell you how out-of-character it was for me to go to something like that. I don't do rallies or protests - that's not me. I just felt like someone should be there.

At the last minute, I almost didn't go. I know the Unit wanted to watch the Skins and I had a million things to do. But it meant so much to me to be there - I can't say why.

And I'm so glad I went.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 3:30:57 PM

And I have to give major props to my spousal Unit. He hates any kind of protest (not that this was like that, but he couldn't know that before he took me - he had to take my word for it). I didn't even ask him, other than mentioning that I really wanted to go when he asked me what I wanted to do that weekend.

As an officer, he has to be very careful about any political expression of opinion, and I think that made it awkward for him. I don't think most people appreciate the lesser freedoms enjoyed by many military personnel (at least if they respect the rules). They're not free to express their opinions the way other Americans are.

But he set aside his unexpressed reservations and took me there anyway, and I can't tell you what that meant to me.

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 3:38:25 PM

("at least if they respect the rules"--and of course Winter Soldier"DYKWIA Kerry" was/is above them).

Good on the Unit. One more example of a Marinestud. My new name for them.(~;

You're never going to kick yourself in the backside for going, but you would have had PLENTY of reason to do so had you NOT gone.

The internet being key in the outting of Commissar Rather and his frauddocs, this Vet event getting SOME exposure....... all of this reminds me of how important it is to KEEP SocaLiberoKrats out of office. Much of the internet has not served them and their media ho's very kindly, although that same "much" has served "American Citizens For Truth" kindly. But that is a fact not forgotten by those "other" Amerikans who wish to force feed their "agenda" on real Americans..(-; They'll do what it takes to put the clamps on the internet which has managed to continually pull off their masks. They'd love to silence the whistle blowers.

Thanks to the Unit and to you for this "Special Edition" of JetNoise. Next time attach a kleenex link, though! (~;

Posted by: CK Cat at Sep 13, 2004 4:09:52 PM

Cass, you should post that Pentagon picture.

Posted by: purple raider at Sep 13, 2004 7:17:53 PM

Mr. Raider: do you any idea how BIG it is? :)

I don't think I can get the whole thing on my scanner. If I did, the file would be enormous.

I would if I could...

Posted by: Cassandra at Sep 13, 2004 8:17:29 PM

My son (a Marine) is in Iraq second time. Another son served in Desert Storm, husband is Marine Vietnam Vet. The press here in AZ. is so biased and one Democrat at the Mesa Tribune called me a war monger, liar,etc. when I tried to tell him the truth about Kerry after Vietnam.
I'm tired of liberals telling me my son is stupid to enlist and if he gets killed it's Bush's fault. They said Pat Tillman that got killed tried to be a Rambo and he was just a dumb ass. I saw a Veteran's for Kerry bumper sticker on a truck the other day. Most people are so uneducated about Vietnam and Kerry.

I plan to make a big poster as soon as the weather cools and go down on main street. The poster will say "ask me why my family will not vote for Kerry" and then I will have handouts. I'm hurt every day about what the liberals say about our soldiers and President. They are blind, deaf, and stupid and wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass.
Mrs. Pat Engelman
Mesa, AZ.

Posted by: Pat Engelman at Sep 14, 2004 6:58:03 PM

Go get em Mrs. Engelman!!! (~;)
Godspeed to ya!

Posted by: CoLoRaDo KiT cAt at Sep 14, 2004 7:08:40 PM