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May 05, 2004

Campus Thought Reform 102

More affirmative action bake sale shenanigans at University of Rochester. Won't these folks ever learn?

I love it..."What you in for?" "Word crime, man...bummer".

Shippensburg U. agrees to remove unconstitutional speech code.

Oregon State students not only demand firing of student columnist but try to fire everyone who saw column before it went to press. Can you say overreaction? I knew that you could...

Law firm vows to fight for students' right to mention God at graduation ceremonies. Thinks schools should remain neutral - what a concept.

Thanks to CKC for the last two links.

- Cassandra

May 5, 2004 at 06:46 PM | Permalink


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Funny, Arthur Ashe stated the same thing in his autobiography, that black athletes like Wilt Chamberlain and Magic Johnson did more to fuel the racial sterotypes than anyone else ever could, and decried their immoral behavior.

Posted by: Cricket at May 5, 2004 8:03:15 PM

Well....he's..just...A FILTHY RACIST :)

Posted by: Cassandra at May 5, 2004 8:11:06 PM

Dear(Age-ing of Aquarius) Professor Johnson:

Please look into a mirror and repeat after you:

"Speak out for diversity. Defend inclusiveness. Decry bigotry and intolerance."

Wash, rinse, repeat. In particular that last "i" word should be repeated as often as is needed--which in your case is often.

Thank you,
Moon Pie & Oreo

Of the Campus Republicans
University of Rochester.

Posted by: Inclusive Students of Univ of Rochester at May 5, 2004 8:21:01 PM

I wonder if they ever listen to themselves when they're spouting all that tolerance crap and then they run around villifying "diverse" viewpoints and characterizing divergent viewpoints as Other and ostracizing them: marginalizing them and making them feeling uncomfortable and threatened (and in general just creating a non-welcoming atmosphere :)

Posted by: Cassandra at May 5, 2004 8:28:45 PM

I've been away from my Humanities 101 book too long - I've forgotten all my Humynspeek.

Posted by: Cassandra at May 5, 2004 8:30:35 PM

I just shake my head at those old hippie professors (my guess) and think it's RIGHT in their face and they STILL don't get it. Frightening that the future is entrusted to them w/these students! YIKES!

As for the grades of the CR being tampered with, wouldn't you think that there are records available about all of their studies & grades up to the point of any act of "profetic revenge" that would end up as egg on the profs face, because of glaring inconstancies?

The doofus ACCUSED and Judged the CR's bake sale of being: ""a direct, calculated attack" on everyone "who is committed to free inquiry and expression"

Wasn't it a SHINING example of fostering free inquiry and expression?..What an ijut!

Are martians doing labotomies at night on unsuspecting, sleeping "educators"?..Lordie! Maybe Roswell is the only SAFE place to be. (~;

Posted by: CoLoRaDo KiTtY cAt at May 5, 2004 9:13:47 PM

No, CKC, the professors are big time boosters of 'experimentation' so they more than likely got a home lobotomy kit. The rest is history.

Well, we all know Ashe is Not Here right now, but I betcha by gum Dr. Williams is thrilled with the unity in diversity displayed by these students, not to mention their grasp of equalization as represented by taxation as it relates to economics.

I wonder if it will make Rush Limbaugh's show? Hm. We can only wonder. Long live the blogosphere!

Now, I am off to my renewal and empowerment cycle, aka 'sleep.'

Posted by: Cricket at May 5, 2004 10:19:49 PM

Just asking, but does anyone else find themselves unable to muster the wherewithal to deal with the shrill screed being posted at Scrappleface anymore?
I am so tired.
I just want to laugh.

Posted by: spd rdr at May 5, 2004 10:32:00 PM

I dunno spd it is different, I find myself having a hard time getting a word in edgewise. I still read it, and it was nice to see Cat back mixing it up with afe.

Regarding Walter Williams, I have heard him say that he teaches his students to put their pens down and stop taking notes whenever they hear him say "in my opinion". They won't be tested on what follows. If I could do it over again, I would love to study economics under someone like him.

Posted by: Pile On® at May 5, 2004 11:57:24 PM

Pile On,
Dr. Williams is one of my very favorite erudite learned people. He makes learning fun because he encourages the independent thinking as much as he encourages it along the constitutional lines.

He has a course syllabus at George Mason University's website, and I have gone in there
to look at what he is asking his students to write about. I have had the temerity to answer a couple of the questions, in my own right, and not as a student, but because they are thought provoking and even reading his course requirements are an education in and of themselves.

sdr rdr,
I am not sure what you mean about the shrill screed, so if I have driven you away, I am sorry.

Posted by: Cricket at May 6, 2004 7:19:11 AM


I don't think that's what he meant at all if I can stick my two cents in. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It has changed over there - the whole tone of the threads is heavy. I've had occasion to read through a few of the older threads and I couldn't believe the difference. As I was reading it, I just couldn't believe it - I saved one of them to my machine as an example - it was that good.

I was almost to the point of suggesting to a few of you that we go over there and "take it back by force":)

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 7:49:22 AM

No time for a snark assault today....but if someone assembles the troops I will join the coalition of the willing.

Posted by: Pile On® at May 6, 2004 8:49:55 AM

One thing that would be helpful in setting the tone of the battle would be to establish Sublime air superiority quickly.


Posted by: Pile On® at May 6, 2004 9:03:22 AM

How do we do that? Do you have a strategy in mind?

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 9:20:33 AM

You know there are a couple of things going on over there - one is the diminished number of threads to post on. I did some quantitative analysis :) (such being my bent in life) and noticed on the old threads from about a year ago that on average, only about 1/6 really take off - the rest are duds.

WARNING: I'm about to get boring here, to feel free to tune out.

That stands to reason when you think about it: you need a few things for a thread to take off. Sometimes a good topic, although sometimes the topic is irrelevant because many of the best ones were hijacked by person or persons unknown. Also you need critical mass: enough posters to have a good conversation. And the right posters - if they're all morons, it won't take off, and it has to be at the right time obviously because sometimes we're all busy.

Now that there aren't as many threads, you can't hop around like you used to to escape the moonbats and find one that's normal - I post a lot, and if you'd asked me I would have told you I probably posted on most threads. But in looking back, I realized that even I never posted on a lot of the threads because they didn't interest me - that surprised me because I'm such a bigmouth :)

The point of all this longwindedness is that even if we go back in force, it will be difficult to have coherent conversations like we used to because of the interruption factor b/c there aren't enough threads and too many posters.

But...I have a possible solution in mind!

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 9:31:05 AM

The "shrill" is one problem. The other is volume. By the time I hit a thread, it is 70-150 posts deep. I don't have time to catch up and join a conversation, and I'm sure that starting something leaves me open to being redundant. Yes, some threads really took off a few months ago, but most survived 20-70 posts total and died. It was a nice diversion. Now, it is a job just to contribute. So I spend more time here now - I know the posters, their wit is superb and they are the reason I returned and posted at the Scrap to begin with.

I don't have time to join the coolition of the willing until June (Cass has the details), but I will try to snipe a shot off every now and then.

Posted by: KJ at May 6, 2004 11:31:08 AM

Yes. That is it. Too many posts and the thread has either been chewed to death or hijacked.

I did mention something about Rant, a hairball and outsourcing in the same sentence over there.

Count me in for whatever. I will go along.

Posted by: Cricket at May 6, 2004 12:42:55 PM

I 2nd, 3rd, 4th---wherever I fall in line re: scrappleTown and getting a word in edge wise, the tone, etc. We all seem to be on the same page ( and sometimes with MY big mouth I take up a whole friggin' page).

IMHO opinion, some of the newer contributors have some really good stuff to say, but much of the satire, humor, "quick" witted factor has been lost. (I KNOW I can't claim Queen of "brevity"--nor can I be excused from wearing the scarlet "H" (hijacker)that's laughable, and I'll be the one to start the laughter!). I do betcha' usn's here would have the same list of names that come to mind when airing our Scrapple"complaints"]

Another thing: I know for a fact that it's not an unwillingness on Scott's part that not as many fresh stories are dropped in. Yup, "he" talked to me again. Want to touch my monitor after I pull up the e-mail?...? Want my autograph?(;

In the only wise words spoken by "part of the
problem" Jesse Jackson:
You're either part of the problem, or part of the solution. So, rather than "squatters" chasing you out--- Bloggers UNITE!...now MARCH Scrappleward. I'll catch up with y'all later, I'm headed PsychWard. [Visualize emoticon w/ crossed eyes & tongue hanging out one side o' the mouth]

Posted by: CoLoRaDo KiTtY cAt at May 6, 2004 3:11:28 PM

I would be the last to complain about the frequency of posting stories - that was more in the line of an observation than a complaint. He doesn't owe anything to any of us, and I get quite annoyed when people start carping about it. I don't think they realize how much time this stuff takes, and he's running that MTV thing now, plus he's allowed to have a life.

Frankly I've considered doing satirical pieces several times to lighten up all the serious stuff here. The biggest reason I haven't is that it is very time-consuming to do well (at least until you get good at it).

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 4:17:20 PM


Just do what Cartman did when he became a Christian song writer - take normal songs, and add God or Jesus to them.

Take a passage from Candide or Swifts "A Modest Proposal," change the names and the "issue" (eg, instead of eating the children, we could eat left handed people), and instant satire. The well read group here might find it boring, but the common masses will get offended and upset or think is wonderfully original.

Posted by: KJ at May 6, 2004 4:49:48 PM

I almost got expelled from HS Junior year for writing satirical pamphlets lampooning school policies that I thought were stupid. They were anonymous, but the faculty knew exactly who was writing them b/c it was a very small private school, my writing style was distinctive, and I think the classical allusions gave me away instantly. So much for clever pseudonyms... My English tutor pulled me aside and told me to knock it off or else.

End of my fabled career as a satirist.

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 5:10:38 PM

Oops, Cass! Uhm...I e-mailed you way before I (just) read your post! Some of my e may sound like an echo chamber...ber....ber...ber (-;)

P.S. no comments here sounded like they were whining about "We need a new story, Scott!" [after I'm done rolling my eyes when I read that I picture little baby birds in the net squawking for Momma to feed them]

Posted by: CoLoRaDo KiTtY cAt at May 6, 2004 6:32:33 PM

hehehe...Cassandra the budding young subversive pamphleteer!

I have given this some thought (about two minutes)as I drove 295 miles today to make 8 sales calls.

We could assemble a crack team of blog spec ops forces and lay waste to a thread or two, and it might be a load of fun. But with Scott not being able (busy)or inspired (you can't force humor at the level of the great Ott)to post as many stories as he used to.....and with his much deserved growing noteriety, ala Rush and The Weekly Standard among other places, there is going to be more and more traffic. And there isn't a damn thing we can do about it, and if it is good for Scott, we shouldn't want to.

The best we can hope for is a Spartacusesque effort, embarrass the Roman legions from the tip of Italy to freedom in the mountains of the north, then eschew freedom, turn around and fight all the way back to the tip of the Peninsula.

Glory? Yes. The defeat of the Roman Empire? No.

Posted by: Pile On® at May 6, 2004 7:01:55 PM

I do have a few ideas, but I agree with Pile Juan that the brute force approach won't work, if for no other reason than that we're too busy to sustain it.

It also won't work for the reasons I mentioned above (statistical, boring reasons). Think about it, and let me think on it over the weekend when I'm inebriated and my mental processes are more streamlined. And I may even approach Scott with one of my ideas if it still makes sense to me after further inspection.

I don't want to compete with Scott (and I don't have the time/inclination to do so anyway). But perhaps there are other alternatives. I've got some serious constraints on my time, but I can always get more organized. Or drink more.

I would be interested in any ideas any of you have if you want to email any of your thoughts to me. Also your thoughts for what you'd like to see on Jet Noise. I'm trying to decide what direction I'd like to go in with my writing, and Joat and I have had discussions about where we'd like to go in general, and it would be nice to have your input about what you're interested in.

Bottom line: I don't read minds. I put out what I'm interested in at 4 am, and I'm not going to start posting bikini porn (cheap shot :) just because someone asks me to, but if there's something some of you want to see and it happens to be something that also interests me or Joatmoaf, we'd be happy to accomodate.

Posted by: Cassandra at May 6, 2004 7:15:45 PM

FWIW, bikini porn is a contradiction in terms. (:©)

**oink symbol courtesy of LF Colorado Cat ©2004**

Posted by: Pile On® at May 6, 2004 8:22:18 PM