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August 07, 2004

DNC Letter To Swift Vets Examined

Here, the Swift Boat vets reply to the charges made against them by the DNC. Apparently the letter has been largely unsuccessful - only one station has so far refused to air the ad on advice of counsel.

I decided to look at the actual text of the Swift Boat Vets ad and contrast that with the charges made in the DNC letter to see if the DNC's charges of lying were grounded in fact:

John Edwards: "If you have any question about what John Kerry is made of, just spend 3 minutes with the men who served with him."

Al French: "I served with John Kerry."

Bob Elder: "I served with John Kerry."

What the DNC threat letter says "the advertisement contains statements from men who purport to have served on Senator Kerry's SWIFT Boat in Vietnam"...In fact, not a single one of these men who pretend to have served with Senator Kerry was actually a crewmate of Senator Kerry's and the man pretending to be his doctor was not. The entire advertisement, therefore, is one inflammatory, outrageous lie. ... Not a single one of these men served on either of Senator Kerry's SWIFT boats (PCF44 or PCF94).

Fact check: The DNC's allegation is false - Not a single one of the 12 men in the ad states that he served aboard the same boat, nor that he was a crewmember of Kerry's. French, Hildreth, and Elder don't even say they served with Kerry in Vietnam. Applying standard used in their own letter (one falsehood invalidates the whole), the DNC's allegations are therefore "one inflammatory, outrageous lie".

George Elliott: "John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam."

Al French: "He is lying about his record."

Fact check: The Swift Boat vets are not the only ones to catch the Kerry campaign re-writing the official record. Senator Kerry has been loose with the facts on several occasions. Here and most importantly, here where THE BOSTON GLOBE catches the Kerry online bio taking credit for combat incidents that occurred before Kerry took command.

Louis Letson: "I know John Kerry is lying about his first Purple Heart because I treated him for that injury."

What the DNC threat letter says: "the advertisement contains statements from men who purport to have served on Senator Kerry's SWIFT Boat in Vietnam and one man pretending to be the doctor who treated Senator Kerry for one of his injuries....Further, the "doctor" who appears in the ad (Louis Letson) was not a crewmate of Senator Kerry's and was not the doctor who actually signed Senator Kerry's sick call sheet. In fact, another physician signed Senator Kerry's sick call sheet. Letson is not listed on any document as having treated Kerry after the December 2, 1968 firefight."

Fact check: Letson merely states "...I treated him for that injury". In the ad, Letson does not claim to be a doctor, nor to have signed Kerry's sick call sheet, nor to have been Kerry's crewmate (why on earth would a doctor be his crewmate?). The only allegation the letter makes that bears checking out is this one: "Letson is not listed on any document as having treated Kerry after the December 2, 1968 firefight", which is carefully worded so as to leave out having treated him for the December 2, 1968 firefight. It is also curious that the letter references only the sick call sheet rather than other medical documents - without having seen Kerry's entire medical record, it is impossible to know whether Letson's name appears on any other documents pertaining to the incident.

The Swift Boat Vets respond:

In Unfit for Command, however O'Neill and Corsi quote Letson as saying: "I remember that Jess Carreon was present at the time and he, in fact, made the entry into Lt. Kerry's medical record."
A footnote to this quotation states: "Kerry's campaign has tried to deny Dr. Letson's treatment of Kerry by pointing to the different signature on Kerry's medical report. The report was signed by the corpsman assigned to Dr. Letson, Jess Carreon, now deceased, according to U.S. Navy records."

Van O'Dell: "John Kerry lied to get his bronze star ... I know, I was there, I saw what happened."

Jack Chenoweth: "His account of what happened and what actually happened are the difference between night and day."

Admiral Hoffman: "John Kerry has not been honest."

Adrian Lonsdale: "And he lacks the capacity to lead."

Larry Thurlow: "When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry."

Bob Elder: "John Kerry is no war hero."

Grant Hibbard: "He betrayed all his shipmates ... he lied before the Senate."

Fact check: Kerry did lie before the Senate: he claimed the Winter Soldier vets were highly decorated vets who had witnessed atrocities in Vietnam. Several of his other statements were suspect. From www.wintersoldier.com:

Kerry charged that the war in Vietnam was a racist war, that "blacks provided the highest percentage of casualties." Research published in B.G. Burkett's book "Stolen Valor" and other sources shows that casualty rates for black and white soldiers during Vietnam closely matched the proportion of America's overall population represented by each race.
Kerry's used "testimony" from the VVAW's "Winter Soldier Investigation" as the basis for his war crimes charges, although none of the witnesses there were willing to sign depositions affirming their claims. Later investigators were unable to confirm any of the reported atrocities, and in fact discovered that a number of the witnesses had never been in Vietnam, had never been in combat, or were imposters who had assumed the identity of real veterans. The deception extended to the VVAW leadership. Executive secretary Al Hubbard claimed to have been an Air Force captain wounded piloting a transport over Da Nang in 1966. Hubbard was actually a staff sergeant who was never assigned to Vietnam.

If Senator Kerry was wrong then, he has had 30 years to correct the record. That he has not done so shows an appalling disregard for truth and for the reputations of his fellow vets and the United States military.

Shelton White: "John Kerry betrayed the men and women he served with in Vietnam."

AN OPINION: many vets did feel betrayed when Kerry stated of Winter Soldier "vets": "They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
[these were]...not isolated incidents, but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis..."

Joe Ponder: "He dishonored his country ... he most certainly did."

Bob Hildreth: "I served with John Kerry ...

Bob Hildreth (off-camera): John Kerry cannot be trusted."

Announcer: "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is responsible for the content of this advertisement."

I have to say that I do see several lies. Unfortunately, there are all in the threatening letter sent by lawyers from the DNC on behalf of John Kerry.

- Cassandra

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Comments

Let me be the *first* to say, that although some of what the 'Swift boat' vets saying is disturbing about Mr. Kerry, the real story to be played out will be who these guys were and 'WHO' they are 'working for'. Just watch the media try and screw over this 'band of brothers ' because they are vets who aren't too crazy about the accepted wisdom of Kerry. Pepto-Bismol all around, because this will turn your stomachs before it is all over.

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at Aug 7, 2004 9:20:07 AM

It gets worser and worser Don. I have a sneaky suspicion that Kerrys goons (his lawyers) have already got several contingency plans in place for dis-allowing military absentee ballots. Despite what their camp and the media say the military is strongly behind Bush to a large enough degree as to make a big difference.
I believe that the Kerry Kamp is very aware of this and they feel that they have no way of getting around that nasty little detail except with shyster tactics in the courts.
That`s my VRWC conspiracy theory # 3.
You heard it here first.

Posted by: Joatmoaf at Aug 7, 2004 10:52:25 AM

I guess the best way to decieve the public is to just leave it all out in the open. Nobody will ever look there. Where are all the newspaper guys and why aren't they all over this? I curse thier children. This speaks mountains to this mans integrity. It is a stinking festuring pile of s*&^. This is like the invasion of the Pod people. Clinton just assumed Kerrys body. Unfortunately their combined evil-ness will destroy this country.
I am praying for a new buggy harness and the soul of America.

Posted by: Amish Militants on Jet Ski's at Aug 7, 2004 11:07:39 AM

Well, the i-Pod people are already here, and I blame Apple and Steve Jobs.
Joat, what are VRWC conspiracies #1 and #2 ?

For what it is worth, I know a guy who did four tours of duty in VietNam (Marine), including part of one tour at Khe Sanh (in 1969) and although he was a lifelong Democrat, he still didn't like Mr. Clinton very well. This whole thing about Viet Nam vets is going to surface again, and we'll see the media pick the 'good vets' and pit them against the 'bad vets'. They're gonna screw the Viet Nam vets ONE MORE TIME!

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at Aug 7, 2004 12:39:22 PM

" I have a sneaky suspicion that Kerrys goons (his lawyers) have already got several contingency plans in place for dis-allowing military absentee ballots"

Yeah joat ,I have NO doubt. I've been saying the same thing for weeks.Take tips from Al GoreLeonis play (dirty) book of 2000 and just get an early start with some tweaking......so actually--there needs to be a re-count since I didn't really "hear it here first" [from you]. (-;)

I doubt any of Bushes team/lawyers representing the Repubs are ignorant to this likelihood either. THANK GOD and GOD BLESS THEM.

I'm praying & expecting that behind every dirty little underhanded, fraudulent Kerry Kamp ordered 'deed" of the DNCommunists, someone will follow and immediately pull the cover off of it for exposure. Let the mainstream go NUTS trying to keep up with it and re-cover and/or explain them away. I have ZERO doubt the DNCommunists don't have a BIG bag of tricks all loaded up and some activated already.

ALREADY the vicious attack to discredit the Swift Boat Vets smacks TOTALLY of Al Gore and his mafia thugs attorneys election stealing (attempt) dealings in 2000. "Scruples", "integrity", "Honesty" are NOWHERE to be found in the DNC Manifesto.

Posted by: ♥+♪_CoLoRaDo KiT cAt_♪+♥ at Aug 7, 2004 12:54:36 PM

What is that saying: "There is no honor among thieves?" Looks like they are trying to steal another election and then whine about it when the Republicans play it honest like they always do. Excellent article Cass, and do you mind if I share it with some idiots who have actually said that Kerry would be better than the mass murderer BuschReich?

Posted by: La Femme Crickita at Aug 7, 2004 2:21:15 PM

I'm waiting for all the uber-dramatic Hollywood protesters claiming that the Kerry camp is trying to "silence" the vets, like they did for the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore, etc.

You know, guys like Martin Sheen marching with duct tape over their mouths, guys like Alec Baldwin threatening to leave the country for this violation of free speech, and so on. I'm sure such patriotic and principled protestors from the Hollywood Left can't wait to stand up for the vets.

Posted by: a former european at Aug 7, 2004 3:37:14 PM

I sent the letter shown below to the station, WBAY, which refused to carry the Swifties ad. I wish I were capable of being more eloquent and anything is better than nothing.

If anybody else feels like complaining you can e-mail them at wbay@wbay.com

As a Viet Nam veteran and career soldier, I wish to comment on your decision not to run the ad produced by the Swift Vote Veterans for Truth. But, let me start with a question.

Was your decision not to run the ad based on a legal decision, or, was it based upon a political view? Either way, you are being totally disingenuous to those who view your station.

When a member of the media decides to show only one side of any argument they are being nothing more than political hacks. It is, after all, the Kerry/Edwards campaign which has chosen to ignore his political career and make his rather short period of time in Viet Nam the cornerstone of his run for the Presidency.

With such behavior, one has to question, when the matter is given some thought, the licensing of a station such as WBAY. Being quite blunt, are you, by your actions, serving as an active agent in Kerry's political campaign, or, are you so totally without courage as an organization? Regardless of which it is, your action is disgraceful.

My comments are mine and mine alone, but as I stated above, I was career military. You in the media love to cite your Constitutional rights. So, does that mean, your voice may be heard, but if someone might disagree, that voice should be stifled? Answer the question, please. One of the reasons I served all of those years was to defend your rights, as a news organization, to show all sides of the story. Apparently, the threat of legal action is all that is required for you, as a station, to feel free to modify your interpretation of our rights.

Brave and good men have been vilified by the Kerry camp because they wish to disagree with the Kerry machine, and you are acting as nothing more than a tool. I hope, somehow, you gain the courage needed just to stand in their presence.

I remain,



Posted by: RIslander at Aug 7, 2004 4:10:21 PM

As usual, typos and all went through. Damn!

Posted by: RIslander at Aug 7, 2004 4:44:29 PM

Uh-oh, RIslander.

You're gonna be on the 'bad vets' list now.

Thanks for giving the station a load of.....

Posted by: Don Brouhaha at Aug 7, 2004 5:27:22 PM

I always knew that RIslander guy was a troublemaker... :)

Posted by: Cassandra at Aug 7, 2004 10:41:18 PM

RIslander: Thank you for your service.

Both in Vietnam and to WBAY.

Unfortunately they won't get it.

Posted by: Purple raider at Aug 7, 2004 11:40:31 PM

You never know Purple. Maybe it will make someone there think - sometimes people get so caught up in their own view of things that they don't even consider the opposing point of view.

Posted by: Cassandra at Aug 8, 2004 7:59:23 AM

Kerry has just recanted his "Christmas in Cambodia" story.
Oooops!
Wonder how many other stories are not quite accurate?
Look. No one said that Seabiscuit didn't serve on the swift boats and maybe do a brave thing or two. MOST of the military call that doing your duty. Audie Murphy this guy ain't.
Doesn't change the fact he is a cold blooded opporuntist who chose to ride his little red wagon into politics on the backs of his comrades in arms and the dead of Viet Nam.
You didn't need to have your own feet on the ground---or on deck with him ,to recognize him for what he is.
Get the idea I don't like horseface?
Mena

Posted by: Mena Mitchell at Aug 13, 2004 11:58:08 PM

Aw c'mon Mena...have a heart. I'm just not feeling the love, here.

You know how much I admire the junior Senator from Massachusetts :)

Posted by: Cassandra at Aug 14, 2004 11:32:37 AM

There is no reason to insult a fine horse like Seabiscuit.

Posted by: Pile On® at Aug 14, 2004 11:37:46 AM

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